Aging in Style with Lori Williams
Aging in Style with Lori Williams

Episode · 1 year ago

030. The case study reveal: how a senior went from surviving to thriving


What does the journey look like to find your perfect senior living community?
Senior living expert Lori Williams has a conversation with realtor Trisha Spurrier about one client’s eye-opening experience from top to bottom.“Bob” is an example of a senior who went from surviving to thriving. After his wife passed, Bob found himself lonely in a home that was too big with no family nearby.

As the founder of the Spurrier Group, Tricia was able to use her realty knowledge (and her specialty of helping seniors) to help educate Bob about downsizing and selling his home. Meanwhile, Lori helped pinpoint senior living that worked perfectly with Bob’s lifestyle needs.

Bob’s story is one of many in the senior community and imparts lessons of what to look for and how to navigate this chapter of life - and finding happiness again in his golden years.

Topics in this episode:
- Downsizing your home
- Researching senior communities
- Realtors specializing in seniors
- Selling a home as a senior
- Making seniors’ houses safe
- Perks of using local senior housing services
- Finding community and companionship as a senior

Takeaways from this episode:

- There are many misconceptions about senior living options that exist, but it has evolved tremendously. Be sure to educate yourself on the different types available.

- It’s natural as a human to fear the unknown. But knowledge is power, so don’t be afraid to at least continue to collect data, information, and answers to your questions. (Bob did, and he’s doing much better!)

- If it’s not your time to downsize or take the next step to senior living, ask questions and do your homework now to prepare for the future, when you’re ready to make a move.

- It doesn’t take months or years to improve your life. A simple switch to a new community - and the social life it brings - can immediately boost your quality of life.

- There are realtors who specialize in working with seniors and have an extra level of patience and knowledge about downsizing, packing, and finding local connections to make it stress-free.

- Local senior housing placement services often have local resources within the area and a more intimate knowledge of what it offers. 

Resources mentioned in this episode:
001. Stop Downsizing, start rightsizing with Realtor Tricia Spurrier:
005. Senior Housing 101:
003. What is Indepdendent Living and How it can give seniors a new purpose in life:
026. Tips on Touring Senior Communities:

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Welcome to aging in style with me, Laurie Williams. I'm an optimist by nature and I believe you can follow your dreams at any age. My grandmother's journey with dementia ignited a passion and me to work with seniors. I've spent the past thirteen years learning about seniors and aging. In my mid S, I followed my own dream and found it my company, where I use my expertise to help seniors locate housing and resources. On this podcast we cover all aspects of aging. Joanna's each week to meet senior living experts and inspirational seniors who are following their dreams. The fact is, we're all aging, so why not do it in style? Hey everyone, and welcome back to another episode of aging in style with Laurie Williams. On today show we are going to do something completely different. We're going to do a case study, and what I mean by that is we're going to follow a gentleman, an actual person that I worked with to help find senior living and the resources that we brought together to just help him through the whole process, and I want to do a case study like this to kind of take everything that we've learned in all of the twenty nine podcast that we've already done and just apply it to a real case situation, because I think it's going to make a little more sense now that you've been listening along and hearing all the different resources that are out there for our seniors. Also. Today is podcast number thirty and the person I had on my very first number one ever podcast was Tricia spurrier with the spurrier group, and she's a real or one of my go to people, and I thought who better to have on to talk through this case study, because she helped me with this gentleman. So we have TRICIA spurrior today. Yay, Hey Trisha, hey, glad to be here and congratulations on number thirty. Super exciting for everyone, not just you but all your listeners to we'll get well. Thank you. I'm excited about it. I can't believe we've already recorded thirty episodes where this is number thirty, so that's pretty fun and I'm glad that you're back with us. I mean that's just so appropriate you would be on today's show. Thank you. I know it is fun. I remember doing the first one with you and it's been awesome following you and listening to all the shows you've done, creating all that education with all your guests, and I'm super excited to be here with you today on number thirty. Okay, well, thank you. Okay, so we're going to get started and to kind of set the stage, I'm going to tell you about this gentleman. So this is a real live, active person that we're working with right now. So it's still we're almost over the finish line, but it was a lot of work leading up to it, but I just want to, you know, get started with it. So we're going to call him Bob because I don't want to tell you his real name, obviously for privacy reasons. But Bob called me in November, towards the end of November, and his situation was that he's eighty four, living in his...

...own home, a big house. He was a widower. His wife had died several years before and he had two kids, but both lived out of state. He was having some health issues, mostly feeling just really lonely, wanting to be in a place where he could have meals provide it. He was going out to the grocery every day, he told me, every single day he would go out and buy his groceries and you know that's not good. I mean he was just getting like processed food, plus with covid I mean the risk he was putting himself in. That that kind of alarmed me, to be honest. So as we started talking, you know, he told me that he wanted a community. Described it by saying, you know, I want the meals, I want the socialization, I just I'm tired of being by myself. I'm tired of trying to take care of this house. It's too much for me. But he was also very, very overwhelmed and very anxious about the thought of moving. You know, what was he going to how was he going to do it? He said, you know, I'm not a young man. How am I going to decide what to take with me? How am I going to pack things? I mean he just just was so overwhelmed that it was just kind of like freezing him in his tracks, like he could not go forward. And so, you know, first off, you know, I explained to him that we had some great options for him in the area that would be a great fit for a senior community. And then, second we need it to work on getting rid of this house, and so I asked him, as I ask you know, all these seniors I work with. You know, do you have a realtor? And he said no, I don't have a realtor, but there is a man in my neighborhood who puts flyers on the doors and I know he sells a lot of houses. And so I said, well, okay, I said, but you know, for your situation, I think it makes sense to work with a realtor who that is their expertise, is working with seniors, and so that's why I asked him. I said, can I put you in touch with my friend Trisha, and he said absolutely, so that's when I called Trisha and said, Trisha, can you help us with this gentleman, and I explain the situation and Trisha schedule of time to meet him. So Go Trisha. Yeah, yeah, you know, I was always happy to help folks that you're working with, Lori, and Bob was no exception. And you know, you mentioned he was a bit anxious and he had a lot of questions and he really wasn't even sure that he wanted to do this right now. And, as a matter of fact, he even said, you know, I think I'll do this some time next year. And this was a end of November, I think, when we was at the end of over. Yeah, I was into November. HMM. Yeah, and so he's like sometime next year. And so I was, you know, at his home and sitting across from him at his dining room table and Lori I could hear his stomach growling. It was about ten o'clock in the morning and he was drinking, or trying to drink, one of those little meal replacement shakes, a boost or in shore, and it...

...was a small little bottle and he'd only got in half of it down and I could hear his Tommy growling and all I wanted to do was just make him some bacon and eggs. I just wanted to cook for him. You know, I knew its important to him because you had mentioned that to me, and it was obvious in ten minutes because his stomach was growing and I just immediately felt like this is somebody that we definitely needed to maybe offer a little lecture assistance too, because, you know, you really didn't have anybody to help him. I think that was part of his anxiety to you know, his kids love him, but they live in a couple different states and he really was kind of alone and making all the decisions and just worried as he doing the right things at the right time to sell his house. Where is he going to move? He didn't know what that look like, or could he afford it? I mean there's a lot of questions, of course, and you and I both feel, you know, for someone in that situation. But I'm so glad that he got connected with you, because the good news is we were able to give him the information in data he needed to make the best decision for himself. And so it took a few visits and he was, you know, I want to I don't want to say skeptical, because he knew he wanted to do it and he told me a couple of times. He probably told you this too. He wasn't really looking forward to this, but he knew it was time. Did he exactly? He did. And and Bob I mean like many seniors. I mean everyone's different, but Bob was. He was nervous about making a move, which most seniors would be if you've been in your house for a long period of time. But kind of to add to it, I think Bob had a little bit of an anxiety issue too, because he was very anxious, where he was not sleeping, he was not eating well and he would tell us all the time, you know, I can't sleep and you know, am I doing the right thing? You know. So there was a lot of handholding to be done with Bob and there was a he had a lot of questions and he honestly he was not a trusting guy and he did not trust US initially, which for you and I were like what, we love you, we're trying to to help you, so it's kind of hard for us. So like, why don't you trust as man, we're going to, you know, steer you. We're going to do right by you, I promise. But we had to really like step back and and go slow and answer his questions, the same questions over and over again, which you know, which is another reason I do want to point this out. This is why I think it's really important for a senior to work with a real term who has worked with seniors and has specialized in that, because there is an extra level of patience that is needed in working with seniors, and I don't say that like in a negative way, and it's a good way. I mean we know we have to be very patient with them. There's going to be a lot of questions and we don't want to push them to move too quickly. There's just a certain way of speaking with seniors, right. Yeah, you know, that's a great point, because we have to move at that person's pace. If they are ready to go, let's go, and...

...if they're not ready to go, we got to get on their timeline. And you know, for any of us, and nobody wants to be pushed or told what to do or hurry along now, let's get this over with. You know that's not what he needed. We have to go at a senior's pace. But what's interesting, I think about pace, is that while, you know, the first week or two that we you and I were both working with him and he had some resistance and, you know, a little bit of pushback and we were strangers to him, right. You know, I'm get it. Sure you said he know us, and so in the first two weeks I was like, well, I'm not going to move until sometime next year. And then after we introduced there you know, downsizing, right sizing, and all the services involved in helping to make this an easy peasy move for him. Then, once we kind of had a few more meetings, the next thing he says, all of a sudden his pace change and he said this is great. He said, well, can we get this done a little faster? You know, can we move a little faster, like, Oh, we've answered his questions and now you know he's ready, and so we pick up the pace. So you kind of have to go with the flow and expect that to know that the tides are going to turn a little bit and you know, you've got to be flexible and patient, like you mentioned. Absolutely and with Bob, you know, clearly, when I spoke with him, I was able to identify too great independently in communities that would be perfect for him. They were right in the area, they did the three meals, and something that was funny was we always say this that you don't know what you don't know, and so when he called me, he's so well, I think I just need a studio apartment and I was thinking, you're coming from like a two seven hundred square foot house. That's going to be really hard to go down the studio. So we, you know, introduced him to two different retirement communities he settled on one that he really liked and then I get a call. You know what, I think, I want to go with the one bedroom. So I communicate with the community when he wants a one bedroom now, and then the next thing you know, it's a large one bedroom. And then finally he went to a two bedroom, two bathroom apartment. He got the largest one they had and I'm so glad he did. Like you said, you don't know what you don't know until you receive more data, more facts, and that's what he did in his journey. His expectation was a number one, he could only afford the studio, okly, and number two, it's all the space he would need. And what like you said, he went from a studio to a large two bedroom. But even when he secured the two bedroom floor plan, do you remember how excited he was that the floor plan came in with two options, to options for him to choose from one one items to take where they were going to place them in his new apartment? Yeah, let's kind of circle back to that, Trisha, because what kind of like following what we did was first we secured which community he was going to go to. That was the most important and with most seniors they can...

...move. The best thing is if they can, and most can move to their senior community first and then figure out what we're doing with the house. So he's sort of he's still in his house, but he's had has the community's already secured it. So the next step that we did was tricia brought in a mover to come and kind of just take care of those fears that he had about packing everything up, and she was able to take the floor plan for the apartment he picked out and come up with options for weird to put his furniture, what he could take, what, you know, what wasn't going to fit, what he might want to donate, and Solectricia said there were two options that she made for him on the floor plan of you know, he could choose which one. He won it, and that's what you said. He was so excited about getting that. He was so excited about that he actually thought, and this is where we have to kind of sometimes overcommunicate, he thought that he wasn't going to be able to take his grandfather clock, he wasn't going to be able to take a very special hutch that had belonged to his wife with her some you know, precious collectibles, and he didn't that he was in a room for all that. And when, you know, we were telling him, yeah, actually, you getting that large. To put true, you are going to be able to take more and I think you're going to be happier about it. And then when he saw it on paper, when he saw the floor plan and the diagram and measurements, that was really important to him. To I was like proof, it was proof that he could take what he wanted, and that just gave him great joy and a big sense of relief that it was actually on paper, he could see it and he could start figuring out, you know, what his new home environment was going to look like. That gave him a lot of peace of mind. Yeah, and I think also not really understanding what the you know, senior living was going to entail. Initially he's thinking, okay, I've heard this is what these places cost, so I'm only be able to afford the, you know, smallest unit. But once he saw that, okay, your rent is going to include everything. It's all inclusive. You know, it's going to have your three meals a day, your utilities, your housekeeping, your transportation, everything is all in one price. When he saw that and started to understand it, then he realized, okay, I can't afford a bit more because everything's included. That's right, and it is like what you said it when he sometimes you have someone that's very visual and detail oriented, you have to speak to that and do what I call a show and tail. So for him, once he could see all of the services that were included in his monthly rent, then it made sense to him. And once he could see a floor plan with drawings of his furniture on there, then it made sense to him and he could make a decision and and either move forward or say no thanks. And so that really helped. And identifying the client and identifying this senior themselves, what their personality is like, what their life experience has been. Do they have...

...helped locally to help make these decisions or do they not? All of that goes into figuring how to best serve them. And and for him it was show and Dal like show me, I needed something tangible to see, and then that gave him peace to move on to the next question. And since we kept showing him how it would work, and it was kind of like the proof that he was looking for exactly and he was yeahs by that proof. Yeah, he kept being surprised that we kept delivering on what we promised him and like I, like I said, and Tricia said, he was a tough one. I mean he really we had to really gain his trust. And you know, another thing that happened was he kept questioning me. Okay, Laurie, really, are there only two options that are going to work in this area? And I'm telling him, Bob, yes, that's what I have. So he went on his own and he googled and he got hooked up with a large, a national placement service, and my service is a local placement service and the reason that I am a, you know, advocate for local services is because we have all these different resources. We only work in, you know, the Dallas area. We're not covering the whole nation. So anyhow, he got hooked up with this National Placement Service and they sent him nineteen options, and options were assistant living, which he didn't need, memory care. They were outside, thirty minutes outside of where he wanted to live. And so, you know, he called me back and he said, Lori, I have these nineteen places and I was like Bob. Let's let's talk about it, let's look at these places, and we went through them one by one and we're able to cross off, you know, the majority of them. And then, of course, you know, Bob Being Bob, he went and visit it a place that was in another town and he got lost. He had to literally be on the phone with the salesperson as they helped him get there. So that's that's not what he wanted and you know, but he had to kind of learn, you know, figure it out, and so then he finally came back to me and said, okay, you're right and I'm going to go with place, the first place you told me about, because you're right, that was the right place. Yeah, all those extra visits and all those phone calls and staring at a list of what he thought were nineteen options, all that did was just create more anxiety for him. So it was anxiety on top of what he was already feeling, and you just want to take that away from him. You don't want someone to feel like that, and that's why, like your services are so tailored for the geographic preference there, the lifestyle that they're looking for. What type of services do they need, what will they might need in a couple of years? I've heard you exactly question, you know, and then sitting their financial parameters. That local touch and a hug and love goes a long way and helping some wand to feel better about the decisions that they're making. I, like you, I just wish that he...

...hadn't done that because again, he even if you were three properties, it was hard for him to drive, it was hard for him to navigate the highlights. Want, like you said, when property was like thirty minutes from his house and he didn't really want to go any further than the local grocery store, I know, thirty minutes on some other town, you know. And so yeah, if you could tailor those options, let as you always do. It really alleviates a ton of stress, time and, in some cases money to and so, yeah, I was so glad. Unfortunately, that was part of his process. He needed to be kind of feel the pain to then realize. Okay, well, Lori does know what she's talking about, so we'll keep moving forward. I was going to say that. I was going to say, you know, it was just terrible that it just brought more anxiety and more, you know, stress on this poor guy, but that was his personality and I think he needed to do that. That needs to be part of his journey to realize he needs to trust us. We really honestly, and I get it he doesn't know as but we had his best interest at hard and I think he I think he knows that now. So what he does? Yeah, so the community was wonderful, the retirement community where he ended up, they were wonderful. We've all work together as a as a team basically, to help Bob find the right place. TRICIA came in. She said in place with the with the packers, the movers, the packers, estate sell they're going to come in and do all of that. And so bob actually ended up telling us he wasn't going to do this till after the first of the year. But guess what, he did it the end of December and he's not officially moved out of his house yet, but he does already have the senior apartment. He's been going over there to half meals since the first of the year and I believe he said he even went to a happy hour. Yeah, he did. I was starting to till my last week and he just said at the end of our conversation and said, hey, guess what, and I was like what, Bob just said, hey guess what, to me? What? and He's send it, I'm going to a happy hour at my new play and on Friday. And I said, Oh man, that's so cool. And but I talked to him the next Monday about business and he told me, hey, guess what. I said, Oh what, and he said that happy hour was a lot of fun and so he started talking about social you know, he was talking about this from a social aspect whereas you know, in the earlier there was no talk of social it was just facts, logistics, details and data. And now he's starting to laugh about it and have fun and adding to which is adding to his quality of life, which is super awesome to see for him. Yeah, I talked to actually earlier this week the Rep at the community and ask, you know, how's Bob Doing, and they said we love him. He asked a lot of questions. He still does. So that's just Bob. Yeah, that is it is.

You know, I had something he was talking about. I think I told you about this and I don't remember, but really cool that happened just yesterday about that community is that he needed to contact the Hoa to get some information about listing the house, and the young person that answered the phone with the Hoa, he told him what he was doing. I'm selling my house and I need some information for listing it, and the young person said, well, but we're sure are going to miss you. Where are you going? What are you doing? And he said, Oh, I'm moving to a retirement community and she said, well, where are you moving? Which one? And he told her and she said well, Bob, she said my mother lives there, and he said she does, and he's she said yes, she does, and he said, well, all right, does she like it? And the that my mother loves it and she's lived there for a couple of years already. We love it. and Bob said, well, I'm in an apartment X Y Z, and the girl said, oh my goodness, my mom is your neighbor. She's two doors down from you. And so you know, he got confirmation out of just that, just random phone call, and he's like Hoo, everything thing is going along. I've the last couple of weeks. That's what I hear him say so much is everything's coming along and things are happening the way you said they were going to happen and, like you said, Laur, he's surprised and you and I are like, yeah, that's what we that's what we said. It's wrongly, that's what we do. We that's what we tell us. But yeah, well, and I love that. What a wonderful coincidence that his neighbor is this, this lady's mother. That's amazing. Yeah, yeah, and he really love the fact that someone living for the services is happy. You know, he said it's one thing for sales and marketing person of a property to give you all the bills and whistles. Less their job is to tell you how they can serve you, but to have, you know, another resonant to say they love it. It was it was more value, to have more value to him. Yeah, definitely well, and I love also that you saw Bob last Saturday and he looked fabulous and he told you how we sleep in now. Yes, I saw him Saturday and you know, I mentioned to you the first time that I saw Bob. I guess that was the last week of November, and you know, he was a little bit he seemed really tired, a little disheveled, and I told you, his little belly was just growling right, and so he's been going over to the property and having meals there and happy hour and socializing with others. So that's been an improvement in his life right away. And he told me when I saw him Saturday, I said, Bob, you you just...

...look so awesome. You look ten years younger, you know. Then just say four weeks ago, what's your secret? Where do you do it? That will tricia. He said, yeah, I'm sleeping. Sleeping is one thing, and I'm sleeping without medication. So all these activity that he's been doing, the decisions he's making, you know, and him peace of mind and he's so excited and looking forward to his new lifestyle. Where is just say one month ago, it was pure dread for him and it's just amazing how he looked like he was like he was expecting company. And I didn't tell him I was coming, I just I popped by and he just looked amazing and he sounded great and he wanted me to come in and watch the football game with him that he had going on. And I don't know, I was just blown away Saturday when I got to spend a little bit of time with him and I'm just we're just really happy for him, HMM. And that is why, I mean, that's why we love what we do, because we can take someone who has the weight of the world on their shoulders and they have no one to help them through this process and we can ease the transition for them. I mean we have the knowledge, we have the resources and we have, you know, teams that we can put in place and, and I've told you this earlier, my favorite I love helping seniors and their families and sometimes it's, you know, just super easy. This is a great place, they moved to it, they don't need any extra help. Sometimes maybe they need, you know, some help with hospice or home care whatever. But my very favorite ones is when we can just piece everything together, like with this this one for Bob, and really see the difference that we're making that, you know, we found in the community. We're helping him with, you know, downsizing and moving and just the whole process, and to see it come full circle so quickly from someone who was stressed and anxious and nervous to someone who is now thriving. You know, that's that's what it's all about. It really is and he's so ready now that he wants us to hurry up all the other processes but still to come right. He's like, okay, I'm ready, so can you move up the estate Salk, can you move up the packing and the moving? And I'm ready. Let's do it. Let's do it. And again, not everybody has as much fear and as much anxiety as he does, but I promise you most people have some amount of fear of the unknown. Right. So in human beings in general, not this isn't just about seniors, but human beings in general, we kind of stop in our tracks. So we have the fear of the unknown and we don't move more because we don't know what we don't know. But I always admire people who are fearful yet continue to collect data and information and seek out answers to their questions. Once you have information, I mean that's knowledge, is power, and that's exactly what he did. He fought through it, right like the the normal issues...

...that we see, but he was his were amplified in his mind and he still move forward. He kept moving forward and all of a sudden, overnight he is, you know, thrilled with his life. So I always admire someone that can continue, you know, even though, keep asking questions, and that's what I would encourage people to do, is just ask questions then make the best decision for yourself. It may not be tough for you right now. Maybe it's two months, maybe it's six months, maybe it's six years, who knows? But get the info today. Do your homework now so that when you are ready to make your move, you have some knowledge behind you and you're not having to go into it just an expert overnight. Get it now, right and and see what it's all about so that when you're ready, you're just you know you're you know you're going to be ready, and that's so true. I think a lot of people are scared to reach out and really find out about senior living. So kind of like Bob, maybe they think, you know what, this is going to be so far out of my budget that I'm gonna have to live in the smallest apartment and they don't understand everything that's included. So I think it's really important, even if you're not planning to leave your house for six or seven years, at least kind of know what's going on, and I love it when those people call me and they're like hey, you know, we're fine in our house, but what should we look for the future? And you know, we may talk about some things about making the house where you don't have falls, you know, fall prevention, kind of look around to make sure that it's a safe house and then, you know, I like to go ahead and talk to people and tell them, you know, the goal is if you want to stay home, if you're happy and healthy and safe, you know, stay home. But you know, sometimes there's some resources that could make your house safer. Or let's go ahead and also find out what's available in your area for independent living or for assistant living, whatever the case may be. It doesn't mean you have to move forward on that today, but just to have that information, I mean knowledge is power, so it's good to have that and instead of waiting, you know, kind of putting your head in the sand and thinking, well, I'll just wait till something happens and then my kids will have to do it for me. You know, it's better to be proactive that successful. I was going to say just always try to be as proactive and the podcast that you were you talk about the different types of senior living. I love that that one especially, because that is one of the biggest misconceptions people have, is they unfortunately, people still think when some people, when they hear retirement community, they automatically their mind goes to what they know, which is one thousand nine hundred and seventy eight nursing home, like that's what they think is out there. And you know, senior living has evolved tremendously, you know, in the last say, even just ten or fifteen years. So when you get educated listening to your podcast about the different types of senior living, what it looks like, feels like, what it costs, that just should really bring a ton of peace...

...of mind and that's why I always want to promote that podcast to people. It's just education, it doesn't hurt. Are you gotta do is listen for a minute and you know, I promise you'll feel better about what options are available. Yeah, and that Ta. That's the whole goal of the podcast. Is really just to educate people and to inspire them to live their best lives, and that's why I wanted to do this case study, because we've covered so many things, like all the different types of senior housing, downsizing right sizing your life, which was the very first podcast we did with you, you know, with so many just talking about all the things we talked about with with Bob that we helped him through. So I think it's really important. I hope that this gives a good example of how you take all the pieces of information and make it work and what we do as professionals and senior living and to help our seniors. I love it. I have enjoyed working with Bob. He truly is a case. I'm so glad you're featuring his story because if we can make an easy, peasy move happen for Bob, we can do it for anybody. Right. Yeah, for sure. Listening today and they're thinking, like you said, I'm scared, I'm nervous, I don't even want to know. Let's just don't even talk about it. Please change your mindset just for a second, open up a little bit and I asked for some help again. Bob's quality of life has turned completely a three hundred and sixty in less than four weeks because he asked a few questions and we were there to help them answer those questions. So I just would encourage anybody you know be like Bob wasn't immercial like like or like Bob, and calls you know. Will we want to help you? Yeah, absolutely. And you know what? I love my favorite part of this whole story of courses. You know that Bob is going to be where he needs to be and happy and everything, but he really became, I think he's a friend with you now, he's a friend forever. And Trisha, you did something really special for him. And Trisha is from the same part of the country that Bob is from. Bob's originally from Atlanta and Trish's from South Carolina. and Bob mentioned what did he mentioned some food that he liked. Is that what? How did he get started? Yeah, no, I kind of brought it up because, you know, you remember, I have not. I didn't forget the first meeting where I could hear his stomach growling and I knew that he's hungry literally, and just trying to get to know him better and I, you know, I said, I heard you from Georgia and I'm from South Carolina and I was just wondering, do you like bull peanuts? And it's kind of a that part of a southern country thing is bull peanuts, and he said do I like bull peanuts, and he opened up his freezer and I'm pulled out a bag of bull peanuts that were sent to him from Georgia and he gave them to me. He wanted me to take him home and I said, Oh boy, I've yeah talk about making friends right because a lot of Texans look at bull peanuts and they're like... rotten peanuts, who wants to eat? They're actually really good. They are very good. And so we became friends real quick over bull peanuts. But it was Christmas time. It was like a couple days before Christmas. I was talking to my mom and telling early and I'm so glad that Bob's in her life and that what we were doing, you and I were doing to help him and just really want to make his world better. And you know, she said, well, why don't we? Why don't we fix him up Christmas dinner, you know, a southern Christmas dinner that you know he might really enjoy? And so that's what we did. We, you know, my mom made some homemade butter beans and speckled peas and rise and some white gravy that he told me he liked, and made him, Oh, I made him an Ambrosia. You ever heard of Ambro Oh, yeah, it's good. Yeah, that was my dad's favorite Christmas food and it was his too. That's what he felled me. Loved Ambrose. I made him my nanny's Ambrosia. But anyway, mom and I had time, you know, cooking that up for him and we take it over to him and he of course, was just shocked and just oh my goodness and later called me that next day or later that day and told me that any time my mom and I wanted to cook up some victuals for him, that he would welcome that because it was so good and it was a taste of home that he really appreciated. It's just so cute, you know. He's just and and he he told me to. He's like, Oh, do you know what Trisha did for me, or her mom, and I said I do, and he said it was so good. It was the best home cook meal think he'd had in a long time. And Yeah, I think Bob just really needed that in his life and and it has been just such an honor really to be helping him through this whole process and, like you said, just kind of watch him blossom from, you know, being anxious and scared and and hungry and solely to you know, this didn't take months. This took a few weeks. It didn't take a long time for him to have immediate improvement quality of life. Yeah, and I think that that's said. You know, don't have to be a link drawn out process. We go at that person's pace, like I mentioned earlier, and if that's quick we're ready and if it's going to take a little bit longer, we're prepared for that too. HMM, definitely well, Trisha, thank you so much for being on the show today. I so appreciate you and all that you've did, all that you do to help seniors in this area. You well, you know. I always love spending time with you, Laurie, and I'd love your podcast and I'd think you're doing amazing. I have here in a amazing reach and supporting and educating folks on what seniors really struggle a lot of the bigger struggles at seniors have, and I appreciate the time and effort you put into the podcast and I'm excited to be a number one podcast and...

...number thirty podcast. There you go. Congratulations your success of thirty episodes. That's a press you. You'll have to come back when we hit, let's see, sixty right, or maybe a hundred or I will bring you for all of them, all the milestone ones. That sounds good. I'm sure we have a few more case studies we could share with people, you know, at fifty six and a hundred two. I'm sure we will. So, guys, thank you so much for listening today. I hope that this has helped you and I'm going to list in the comments some of the different podcast episodes we talked about to kind of tie all this in together and that way you can go back and listen to them and educate yourself on that. And, as always, if you have questions, if you want more information, we have all kinds of information listed on the website. You can always reach out to me as well, and the website is Lari Williams senior Servicescom and just let me know if you have questions and please, please share this information the podcast, my website, share with your friends and your family and your neighbors and anyone that may need some help. Thanks so much and we'll talk to you next time.

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